the dissident frogman

11 years and 5 months ago

Better alternatives to flag burning

Protest-through-destruction is the monopoly of Leftist thugs. Let's keep it that way.

the dissident frogman

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Look, I understand that all these talks of "the Republic is dead, burn the flag" is just the stress of that unconceivable reelection talking.

You are not the kind of people that goes around burning American flags—the other side does. When you do protest, on the contrary, you fly the Stars and Stripes high and proud.

Still, I get the feeling. You're rightfully upset, and you are looking for ways to make it clear that you oppose whatever the wolf in sheep's clothes that will sit in the White House for another four years is prepared to unleash on you.

Rather than rejecting the flag though, maybe you should claim or reclaim it—not relinquish it to the maggots who voted for the European Way over the American Dream. Rather than burning it, maybe you could fly it upside down, say, for the next 4 years:
"Under the conditions normally set for the military at sea, if you fly your flag upside down on a ship, it means you're in distress... I think this country is in distress"—Philip Hoezel
Considering the number of regular citizens who fly the flag on their front porch, in their yard or on their car—always an awesome sight for the foreign observer, no matter where they stand on the issue—this could make quite a powerful and permanent statement.

And the great thing is that you could do it both offline and online. Here's a few ones to get you started on the virtual side of life:

That said, if you'd rather not turn Old Glory on his head, then there's another US symbol that is definitely upside down these days:

Use and abuse as you wish. If you need different dimensions, drop me a line. Best practice is to grab the pictures and host or upload them on your own web server, Fb or twitter account, etc, rather than hotlinking. You don't have to give credit whenever using this, but feel free to direct others to this page, or have the graphics link here—again, if you need any help with that, drop me a line.

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4815 - Teri Pittman

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thanks for the great article! I'll share it on some of the conservative sites. We need a good pep talk right now. I live in Washington state, where the Democrats always win. There are conservatives in the rural areas, but not enough votes to win. We did vote to legalize marijuana this time, so I guess we won't care as much about the new

  • November 13th 2012
  • @ 0300 ZULU

4827 - JihadGene

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  • JihadGene North Korea, Central California

Love your insight LOOONG time!!!
  • November 15th 2012
  • @ 2348 ZULU

4829 - 2hotel9

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  • 2hotel9 Western Pennsylvania

Hey, Froggy!!!!! Hola. Sorry I didn't see you were back in the ether sooner, been busy here in western PA.

You think the wailing&gnashing of teeth in the blogshere is bad?!? You should be over here in it! My colors remain at full mast, as always, 24/7/365, and yet, I burned 3 flags on Sunday with full honors. Life continues on, grief and anger are just SSDD. The fight goes on, blocking Barri and all the other America haters infesting our government is the same job after 11/6/12 as it was before.

  • November 16th 2012
  • @ 2009 ZULU

4830 - SAHMmy

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2 days after the election, I hung my biggest flag upside down all day long. Some neighbors who knew me asked why so I told them. Right before I was about to take it down and bring inside because daylight was fading, my doorbell rang. I opened the door and saw a woman from the neighborhood, I don't know her name but I think I've seen her at a few HOA meetings. She said she noticed that my flag was flying upside down and she asked why. I told her it was a political protest against the results of the election. She asked if I knew what an upside down flag indicated, and I explained that I did indeed, that the country is in distress. She said it means that you are having an emergency, that someone in your home is in need of emergency assistance. I said that yes, historically that was the use of displaying an upside down flag. She then asked, "Is there someone in your home who needs assistance?" I smirked and said, "Now, it's 2012. You know if that were the case I would pick up the phone and dial 911. She said well I think you should know that for military members and their families, it is disrespectful to use the flag that way if you are not personally in need of assistance. They fight and die under that flag and it is extremely disrespectful to display it upside down for a purpose it was not intended. And I said Well the Supreme Court ruled in 1976 that it is constitutional and acceptable, due to it's iconic status, to use it as a form of political speech. She said that she wished I would re-consider because of how it made military members and their family feel disrespected. I said I would take it under advisement. She was very polite and sincere, I was very polite and firm. As the sun was going down and I did not have any outdoor lights to illuminate it, I went outside and started to take it down, as I'd planned anyway. She was still outside but talking to my neighbor (a generally unfriendly and scowlly kind of guy since he moved in) who is a Navy veteran. She saw me take it down and thanked me profusely, and I smiled and said I had to take it down anyway because of nightfall. But I was shaken. Very shaken. It never occured to me that any soldier who saw my upside down U.S. FLAG, TWO days after a disasterous election would not UNDERSTAND what I was saying by that action. I almost did not believe it. I called my BIL who is retired Navy and asked him, as hypothetically as I could, and he said he would find it disrespectful. I would no sooner disrespect the U.S. Military than I would throw a baby off a building. ANY time I see a man or woman in uniform, I immediately make a bee-line towards them with my hand extended to personally thank them for their service. I spoke to several retired military I know online and asked them and they said they would not like it but they completely understand and agree with the meaning behind it. I had planned to display it upside down until the desire to do so left me, but I did not put it up upside down after that. There are many, many forms of political speech from which to make our thoughts and feelings known that do NOT cause offense or make a military member feel disrespected. I know that there are veterans all over the country who have displayed the flag in such a manner for the very same reason. I know that there are thousands and thousands of people all over the country doing the very same thing I did. I did not know that it would pain the military in the least, and just wanted to tell my story so that others out there might want to take this under consideration. That's my 2 cents. LOVE YOU FROGMAN!!!!!!!
  • November 16th 2012
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4833 - Mike H.

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  • Mike H. Spokane, Wa

SAHMmy, I have 24 years total in the armed forces, 2 active during Vietnam in the Navy, 8 active during Vietnam Era in the Marine Corps, and a stint in the WA Air National Guard and USMC reserve. I knew immediately what the symbol meant and was not...not offended by it.

People view the upside down flag differently but if the flag could be flown upside down during Vietnam by the left, then they had better not say anyting about it now. I'm getting sick of their attempts at PC by whatever channel available.

  • November 18th 2012
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4835 - Dave

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Don't fly the flag upside down; that's like dialing 911 when there's no emergency. The Stars and Stripes should be neatly folded and put away until such time as the United States is not a socialist country. In the meantime, I recommend the Gadsden "Don't Tread on Me" flag.

  • November 19th 2012
  • @ 0626 ZULU

4836 - 2hotel9

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  • 2hotel9 Western Pennsylvania

So, dave? Your solution is surrender. Okeydokey, then, you do that.

  • November 19th 2012
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4837 - 2hotel9

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  • 2hotel9 Western Pennsylvania

SAHm, you don't back down, back up or surrender. You throw it in the enemy's face, and then you piss on them. Anyone who is "upset" about you excersizing your Constitutional Rights is the enemy. F*ck them.

  • November 19th 2012
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4838 - Mike H.

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  • Mike H. Spokane, Wa

2hotel9, Uh-Rah.

  • November 21st 2012
  • @ 0913 ZULU

4873 - floridasuzie

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  • floridasuzie Florida

Oh, it was horrible. The first time he ran for president and I watched the election results on TV that night, I cried like a baby when he won and threw things at the TV. So I tried to brace myself a little better this time. I think it was even worse though. I was so depressed for a week I shuffled around and grumbled. Then I got mad. It gets worse everyday. But even more depressing than him being president is the fact that enough Americans (maybe? I guess that's debatable) voted this embarrassment of a representative to our country in office.

  • February 08th 2013
  • @ 0230 ZULU
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