the dissident frogman

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the dissident frogman

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Looks like Small Town's hospital is not exactly an exception.

Over there at Fainting in Coyles, Terrance tells the story of his father, unlucky enough to be ill and in France.

3 bathroom for 51 patients, but all of them used as storage rooms anyway? The best - and particularly expensive - health care system in the world is starting to look like the one of a third rate Soviet republic.

Lamentable.

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Il semble bien que l'hôpital de Petite Ville ne soit pas exactement une exception.

Là-bas sur Fainting in Coyles, Terrance nous raconte l'histoire de son père, suffisamment malchanceux pour être malade et en France.

3 salles de bain pour 51 patients, mais toutes utilisées comme entrepôt de toutes manières ? Le meilleur - et surtout coûteux - système de santé du monde commence à ressembler à celui d'une république soviétique de seconde zone.

Lamentable.

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626 - the dissident frogman

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CA: Maybe my turn of phrase is not clear. Sorry about that. Let me rephrase that with a more talking example: My car has dirt in the carburetor and its performances are quite poor. I'm pissed because I paid my mechanic quite a lot to take care of it and it's not working well. Will my car works better and should I feel relieved because you choose seat covers for your car, but once back home don't like the color or the fabric anymore? Huh? Let's just stick to the argument Yeah well, precisely. Read again the post you're currently commenting and tell me where I'm comparing the US and the French system "statistically". You shifted the argument Sir. Sorry for not sticking to it, but I contracted the bad habit of not sitting and tending the foot at the snap of people's fingers. It's incurable. Even the wonderful French health care system can't help I'm afraid.
Time to take sides

627 - Mick

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Im an American with no health insurance and I would NEVER want to switch to a socialized system. Ive gone to the hospital on several occasions. In America, if you pay ANYTHING per month, even $5 towards your medical bills, then that has to suffice for the hospitals. They cannot take any sort of punitive action against you. I may be paying that $5 a month for the rest of my life but thats nothing for access to the best health care system in the world.

628 - John

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More liberal propaganda, Heny Penny the sky is falling. Not only does EVERYONE have a right to emergency service at a hospital regardless of ability to pay, but also there is a little thing call Medicaid that every working American pays 1.5% in payroll tax to. This IS health care for the POOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. GET A CLUE. A bet the bleeding heart liberals never even seen a poor person.

629 - bkg

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As a clinical pharmacist in a large trauma center county hospital in the US I can attest that we "give away" most of our drugs when it comes to homeless or those without helthcare. We ask for payment, but the ability to pay has no bearing upon our requirement to provide care. This is the same in all of the county hopital inpatient or out patient clinics. The tax and spend philosophy is not the answer. The 40 million un-insured still have the best health care in the world... and it is FREE.

630 - Henrik Mintis

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ConcernedAmerican - I don't understand your point. There are many people in America without health care, you're right, but no one in America goes without hospital services. The Americans who have insurance are all paying for the ones who don't have insurance. If you don't believe me, check any large hospital's financial records, and search for the term "indigent care." No one in America suffers from lack of care, whether insured or not. Americans are as healthy as anyone on the planet. As far as cost is concerned, America's average salary and average poverty level is also much higher than that of other countries, and many drug and equipment manufacturers charge Americans more, but charge other countries less, like developing countries. You should be proud that America never turns away anyone from a hospital, and proud that America indirectly subsidizes healthcare for the rest of the world.

631 - infamouse

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part of why prescription prices in the US are so high is because Americans finance all research and development of new medicines. the socialized health care systems opted out of paying for their medicines at prices that the companies could afford to do r&d. If Europe and Canada actually paid their fair share, US prices for prescriptions would go down. Without us, there'd be no new medicines. Your selfishness means we pay for it but one day you'll have a cure for AIDS and a cure for cancer because of us. Of course, by then Europe will probably claim that America is to blame for AIDS and cancer.

632 - Val

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CA, regret you were unaware of either Tony's Wine Warehouse &istro (owned and operated by French emigres) or Sigel's, vendors of fine wines. Both deep in the heart of Dallas. If they would not have what you require, there are the numerous grocery store wine &eer sections available. No, the majority of people being hauled in via abulance are not emerency cases. Must concur with our gracious host that discussing the American health system does not pertain to his original thoughts. Thank you for your patience DF.

633 - Jim M

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CA: As a fellow American (or do you spell that Amerikan?) who happens to work in the health care system, I'd like to set a few issues straight. 1) The vast majority (97%+) of hospitals are not for profit. 2) It is illegal to turn a patient away because they have no insurance. I know many hospitals that run operating deficits because they treat indigent patients. 3) Medicare pays ~ 50 cents on the dollar for hospital charges. 4) Private health care insurers base their payments off what Medicare provides. 5) Having also worked in the health care manufacturing industry I can tell you that many companies turn 10%+ of their revenues into research and development. Without this R&D we would not have the advances in health care that we do. In my industry there were no significant manufacturers outside the US because they could not survive financially. In the company I worked for (I'm back into not for profit health care again) we were the No1 provider in the world and well over half of the business was done in the US. WHY? Because the rest of the world can't afford the equipment even at cost because of socialized medicine. 6) Yes infant mortality is too high in the US. However, the vast majority f babies are born in Hospitals which are terrible places to deliver. Complication rates for home birth accross the US are far less (no this is not a self selecting group). That is why my little boy was born at home.

634 - Ben

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CA: Like I mentioned before 40 million Americans are without health insurance, how many French can claim such a prestigious honor? This sounds a lot like the "every Frenchman/Canadian/etc has FREE medical coverage" canard. There is no free lunch. French citizens pay exorbitantly high taxes to get that health care, drug benefits, etc. Instead of laughing at the plight of Americans who choose to buy their prescription drugs in Canada, Canadian citizens should be absolutely up in arms that their taxes are subsidizing Americans' drugs. CA: Are you aware that private U.S. insurance companies on average take 14 percent in administrative costs, that's just paper work costs to handle the behemoth that US healtcare has become. And what overwhelming percentage of the French government bureaucracy is devoted to managing the huge entitlement programs there? Please. You are comparing apples to oranges. You cannot get something for nothing. Providing and managing health care costs money. BEN

635 - GreatDane

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I think this whole story with the french health care system, unclaimed family members, shown the essence of France. They are selfish socialists. Worst of both worlds, so to speak. Je trouve que cette histoire avec les hopitaux francais et les morts toujours pas reclamés par leurs familles, montre bien la quintessence de la France. Ce sont des socialistes egoistes. La pire des deux mondes, si vous voulez.