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The problem with Brigitte Bardot

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To the (few) visitors coming on this post from a certain smear-sheet purporting to be the "voice of conservatism in Europe": be advised that this article contains exactly 1,273 words between and beyond the 121 a certain "desk of the Brussels Journal" deceptively present as "a quote from the dissident frogman at his blog", under a fabricated title—not including the 554 from the short update at the end briefly addressing this pathetic and misleading attempt to claim the moral high-ground while avoiding to address the arguments presented here, by certain characters from whom I definitely have no lessons to receive. Thank you.

To the (many) visitors coming from everywhere else: don't worry if this doesn't make sense, you're not missing much by not knowing the Waffle SS fan club.

(Jules Crittenden has been so bold as to invite me to guestblog at his place again—brass balls and nerves of steel, that's iron man JC for you. As a result most of what you'll see here this week will probably be crossposted at Jules Crittenden Forward Movement. Considering that I am just one humble froggy on the short list of great bloggers he managed to round up this time, you'll definitely want to check what's happening over there.)

I understand the temptation to paint Brigitte Bardot as yet another example of the crushing of dissent brought upon the West by the conquering armies of Islam, or in this case their voluntary operatives on the Left and the multicultural fetishists who run most of Europe's social-democracies.

For one thing, because the problem does exist, and its weight on what is left of Europe's freethinking souls is proving lethal. No argument here.

However, when it comes to Brigitte the Uberbabe From the Past, there's a bit more than meets the eye—and I'm not talking about the lavish display (Now on NSFW-DVD!), of the generous shapes and forms of her youth that did more to establish her reputation than her true acting skills, really.

No, the problem with this chronologically reversed Johan of Arc—and incidentally the reason why you're not about to see me cheer for her anytime soon—is in many ways similar to the one that caused the recent fratricidal and frankly counterproductive row between Little Green Footballs' Charles Johnson and Gates of Vienna1: namely Europe's old Fascists and Neo-Nazis piggybacking a legitimate anti-Islamist cause at their convenience, in a bid to blur the line between our liberal democracies' fight for survival and their own totalitarian agenda. Bardot is but one small crab in that fetid European cesspool of politics, but the interesting point beyond her own person is that in this instance, every party involved is equally deserving of contempt.

I mean, seriously:

1) Brigitte Bardot (eventually) married Bernard d'Ormal, whose ties with the top echelon of Jean-Marie Le Pen's National Front apparently helped convert her from an annoying animal rights bully (re The Castrated Sexually Harrassing Donkey Incident—Don't ask) to an annoying animal rights bully with a neo-Fascist outlook on homosexuals, immigrants and contemporary American foreign policy2—as well as Islamic and Jewish3 rites and customs even though, typical of the Muslim Victimization Propaganda Machine, the one point that made the headlines and therefore the Great Google Database in the sky, is her attacking the formers' slaughter-fest of Eid-al-Kabir only.

2) The MRAP, who typically turned a legitimate critic of a religious and political agenda (Islam) into a racist issue again and is pressing charges, is an offshoot of the French Communist Party—that should be remembered for its record of being the longest lasting Western European Stalinist party on par with the Portuguese one (if memory serves)—is a vicious and ugly NGO combining the worse of Islamo-Leftism. The MRAP has been waging a war of terrorisme intellectuel ("intellectual terrorism") with the active support of the French State (yes, up to and including the Sarkozy administration) for years now, and definitely positioned itself at the tip of the "anti-islamophobic"4 spear when its president Mouloud Aounit called for the "penalization of blasphemy" on the state owned TV channel France 3 back in 2005. Think CAIR in bed with the Federal government and a legislative machine all too willing to vote whatever it takes to selectively limit freedom of speech (on top of the drastic limits already in place in the Vth Constitution of the French Republic, of course) and pave the way to Shariah.

3) The French courts, a hive of all shades of Leftist red, from bloody to pink, now increasingly mixing with the Green of "militant" Islam (can you guess the resulting tone of this additive color mix?). For the record, that's the system that gave us Robert "F* the Victims" Badinter and Jacques Vergès, noted for befriending Pol Pot, defending Klaus Barbie, Carlos the Jackal, as many Palestinian hijackers as possible, offering his help to Milošević and Saddam Hussein, and answering, when asked if he would have defended Hitler "I'd even defend Bush, but only if he agrees to plead guilty." Need I say more?

4) The French state that appoints and revokes judges and prosecutors, and is still playing its dangerous balancing artist game between its dreams of restoring La Grandeur de la France by opposing what every two bit Gallic politico and policy analyst calls "the American hegemony" (yes, up to and including the Sarkozy administration. Wake up fer cryin' out loud) and its delusional hopes to control France's growing and unassimilating5 Muslim populations and outposts by pandering to the increasingly pressing demands of the Islamists while trying to keep its pants as clean as possible—and not being very good at it, judging by the numerous Car-B-Qs around France's major cities that will take place tonight just like every other night, all year long.

26 And the Lord said, “If I find at Paris Sodom fifty righteous in the city, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”

26.5 And the dissident frogman said, “Fat chance there Oh Lord, so you might as well just go ahead and smite them all.”

Now don't get me wrong: this whole affair is indeed clearly another case of a Western liberal democracy suicidally turning itself against one of its core value by stifling the critics of Islam. You know, technically. However, the French state has a consistent history of confusing what is legal and what is right and making sure there is no such thing as a civil society to question the former. A raw deal, if there ever was any.

In an ideal world, or simply a decent country (present France excepted) Brigitte Bardot should definitely not be prosecuted, no matter how stupid or pertinent her opinions.

Yet it is happening no matter what, leaving one with the sole consolation to pick a side—if any—and decide how much one is willing to compromise. As far as I am concerned, this particular case is a dogfight between two equally totalitarian factions. I certainly do not recognize myself in the kind of France Brigitte Bardot (and the company she keeps) mourns in the book that sent her clashing with France's multicultural thugs nor with the "alternative" these thugs have in store. In any case, her getting in trouble for that is not enough of a reason for me to drop my principles and side with one flavor of Fascist just to oppose the other.

I'll just wait on my side of the line in the sand, to see which one comes on top. Rifle at the ready, if need be.

In addition to that, and having been exposed to the schemes of France's thought police mobs long enough, I can clearly see the MRAP's rationale here. They are discriminating against Brigitte Bardot on purpose and targeting her for her bad company; thus giving more weight to the Left's argument that all critics of Islam are but a bunch of xenophobic, racist Far-right activists—and by extension, so is anybody foolish enough to stand by their side, freedom of speech notwithstanding.

When the critic can't fit the bill however, the MRAP doesn't sue: it lets the Umma take over and the fatwas fly. Case in point? Why yes: I'm sure Robert Redeker would have preferred the French courts of Law, but the poor man wasn't Fascist enough for the MRAP, and therefore had to settle with Muslim death threats and clandestinity. You don't serve the cause, you die.

Bottom line: Brigitte Bardot is not Oriana Fallaci, and comparing them can only tarnish the reputation and the character of the sorely missed Italian defendress of the West.


We've got Lizards in the house. Welcome, welcome, and don't forget to listen and to sing for the greater glory of Gore.

Update II

Not to be outdone, the Brussels Journal—one of the participants in The Great Schism—indulges in a bit of intellectual dishonesty through selective "shortcut quoting" à la Maureen Dowd to imply that I mean to "shoot Brigitte":

Moral Equivalence: My Rifle as Ready to Shoot Brigitte as Shoot Islamists, from the desk of The Brussels Journal on Tue, 2008-04-22 11:05

A quote from The Dissident Frogman at his blog, 21 April 2008

I understand the temptation to paint Brigitte Bardot as yet another example of the crushing of dissent brought upon the West by the conquering armies of Islam […] As far as I am concerned, this particular case is a dogfight between two equally totalitarian factions. I certainly do not recognize myself in the kind of France Brigitte Bardot (and the company she keeps) mourns […] [H]er getting in trouble for that is not enough of a reason for me to drop my principles and side with one flavor of Fascist just to oppose the other. I'll just wait on my side of the line in the sand, to see which one comes on top. Rifle at the ready, if need be.

O-kay. For one thing, there couldn't be any sort of "moral equivalence" here considering that—as I hoped I made clear in the original post "the desk of the Brussels Journal" summarized with so much European sophistication as "Frogman,Bardot,Islamists,Rifle" (adding "shoot" on their own for good measure)—both sides are, quote "equally deserving of contempt".

Here's a primer on moral equivalence for all the desks in the audience (from Brussels and beyond): moral equivalence is akin to the rhetorical fallacy of equivocation. Or, in deskman terms:

There's the good guys, and there's the bad guys. Then somebody says "hey, the bad guys is no worse 'n the good guys, because something-or-another is just the same." That, Dear Desk, is moral equivalence.

When, on the other hand, you have the bad guys and the bad guys—as is the case in the present National Front + Sex Kitten vs. Muhammad and the Bolsheviks— then, well, it is somehow like moral equivalence only without the moral bit in front.

Makes quite a bit of a difference, if Mr. Desk in Brussels sees what I mean.

Now for the cheap sensationalism of the Brussels Journal title, through misquoting and at the expense of intellectual honesty, I could first point at the fact that there is quite a few steps between rhetorical images ("line in the sand", "rifle at the ready" and other inanimate objects—like "desks"—publishing articles on the Internet all by themselves) and the actual acts they depict (I am not really sitting all day on the sand and behind a line you know). Beyond that, and in any case, a rifle at the ready is not a firing one, no matter some brussels desks wishful thinking.

I could also add that if—emphasis on if Mr Desk—the need ever arises for guys like me to pick up their rifles and head for some European forest or the mountains of the Vercors again, it will be as a result of the collapse of European nations, brought upon us not only by the weakness of the States in upholding Western values (though that will definitely help), but also under the blows of Brigitte's bad company and their Jihadist/Leftist alter-egos, in their combined effort to pull a Serb-Bosnian type of shitstorm closer to the Atlantic. I may even finish by saying that what I've learned from the History of WWII and the Allied's strategic choices with respect to Stalin, is that considering what followed the capitulation of Nazi Germany, it doesn't pay off to make a deal with the other devil—or more exactly, that you always end up paying a higher price than you thought initially6. And I may wonder what the desk of the Brussels Journal learned from the same period.

But honestly, all I really feel like saying at the moment is: "Thanks to the Desk at the Brussels Journal for reminding me yet again why I've consistently kept both Right-wing and Left-wing fascists at bay in my life and on my blog all these years."

Wish everybody, particularly in Europe, could say the same.

  1. Among quite a few other torches and pitchforks toting eMobs. And yes, before you ask I was/am behind Charles Johnson on this one.
  2. A May 2003 AFP story that's become quite hard to find online (after a bit of pinball-type searching, I found a copy here) revealed that in addition to finding Far right leader Jean-Marie le Pen and Trotskyist Arlette Laguiller "sincere and consistent", she "likes President Jacques Chirac as a human and a friend," and "praises his stand on Iraq."—Though admittedly, so did the rest of France at the time, and up to this day.
  3. A slightly inconvenient fact that some of those currently rushing at her side might want to consider.
  4. Whatever that means, considering that "Islamophobia" is a phony offense and a weapon handed to the Muhammadans by Western Nihilists—You know, old Vlad' Lenin on Capitalists selling the ropes to hang themselves, and all that jazz.
  5. Yes, that's -ting, and therefore -ted, and not the other way around mind you.
  6. Ask a Pole, a Cuban or a Vietnamese. Or ask any of the relatives of those who died fighting the Cold War.



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3418 - Proof

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  • Proof Stockton, Callifornia, USA

I'm a little surprised by the amount of reaction Ms. Bardot has received (Other than the opportunity to run old, hot photos of BB!) The remarks she made seem so tepid!

3419 - Keith

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Thank you for explaining this. It's all too easy to see my enemy's enemy as my friend.

3420 - 2hotel9

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  • 2hotel9 Western Pennsylvania

Bridgette exhausted any credibility she had with me 15-20 years ago. That she is an obnoxious, foul mouthed leftard who is currently pissing off Muslims, is not news to me. Or in anyway cause of excitement.

3421 - 2hotel9

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  • 2hotel9 Western Pennsylvania

Hey! Proof, what else can we do to unravel sannitized's already tenuous grip on reality?!?! I am, in a sick, twisted way, begining to enjoy smackin that leftard. It used to just be so hohum. Now it is kinda fun.

3422 - beachkatie

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Your on Little greenfootballs tonight. Great story on Brigitte Bardot!! It's better then the evolution thread!

3423 - Mitch Townsend

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  • Mitch Townsend Wakefield, Massachusetts, USA

Many of us are fortunate enough to be either worth looking at or worth listening to. Some unfortunates are neither; a handful are both, but never as many as those who think they qualify.

3424 - Nora

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Thanks for posting this. I was waiting for someone to post on Miss Bardot with a little common sense. If I have a little time, I will translate it into Spanish.


3425 - RepublicWarrior

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  • RepublicWarrior

Dear fellow countryman! (Nous sommes bien entendu compatriotes! Je me demandais comment un étranger pouvait avoir une telle connaissance de la France, de ses partis et de ses gens, lorsque j'ai vu votre pseudo et la présentation...)

I concur with most of the things you said, being a moderate right-wing Liberal opposing both Islamofascism and Fascism from some far-right parties, I would never vote for someone like Mr Le Pen, given I loathed some of his most controversial sentences about the Holocaust, and also because I do not agree with his economic leanings, indeed most of these sound rather Keynesian than Liberal... Actually, I just wanted to make out the suggestions you could have for French, for I wonder what you suggest that French should do, as you know, a significant contingent of our fellow countrymen are ready to vote for Mr Le Pen at the next election, or rather for his daughter I should say, since he seems too old to carry on himself. So, what do you think French should do? Sarkozy is closer to my economic views, but he does not seem as though he were the ideal man to take measures against the growing threat that the development of Islamism within our borders poses to our country and Europe on the whole. Anyway, thanks to show to the rest of the world that there is more to France than a bunch of coward lefties objecting everything made by the US.

Yours sincerely,

RepublicWarrior, a proud European

3427 - Frozen Tex

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  • Frozen Tex Yellowknife, NT, Canada

I just want to thank you for not posting any recent pictures of Ms. Bardot; they cause violent indigestion.

Oderint Dum Metuant "The eyes are open, the mouth moves, but Mr Brain has long since departed, hasn't he, Percy?"

3430 - Render

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Thank you.